Apostate Kate

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  Girls help!!! What signs when a woman is interested in a guy?

  by Spectrum in

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  generally i find that if a girl is interested in me she makes it quite obvious by her actions and words.

  i'm fine with this.

  however there are times when a i really can't tell and this is the problem i'm grappling with at the moment.

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  Apostate Kate

  One girl I met last year we had practically everything in common I could talk with her for hours on end and never get bored and she was really into me as well. I could have married this girl and lived happily ever after except for just one thing, only this one thing, she had a nasty and I mean nasty temper which she turned on me once too often and so I called it a day. I was gutted. Do you think I could have cut this nasty habit out of her or did I do the right thing calling it a day?

  Egad! You deserve better than that one! Imagine what she would have turned into on her period You made a good call with this one. You can't spend the rest of your life with a screaming shrew.

  I did this, which I believe is the reason she liked me in the first place, she's a traditional girl and not into fast love or lust. You've hit the nail on the head she not that expressive, I find I'm hold up the conversation most of the time.

  I sence that you are a really cool guy. Most men have a hard time expressing feelings. I probably have been too open and trusting in my life. I figure that if I am being honest and open, so is the other person. YOU deserve a really loving open woman, willing to commit her life to you.

  When I really like a girl it is not about fear of rejection but my ego that screws up peace of mind and makes me do and say the wrong things. I've never managed to conquer this stupid feeling.

  Care to elaborate a little? I read this to my husband and he is telling me stories of some of the feelings he got when single and wanting to talk to a girl. He says "we can't always talk clearly" he is going on to say when he met me it was different, he had a great peace about talking to me. He says when the one that feels comfortable for you to talk to, that would be the one to persue a relationship with. I think my husband had it pretty bad because along with normal man stuff he is only 4' 10 3/4" tall! We call him the; King of the Little People" lol...who would have thought my perfect match would be a little person! But we sure are, all the way.

  Love~Kate, who wishes you the most good hearted woman in the world.
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  What age group has to sacrifice the most to be a JW?

  by JH in

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  what age group has it easier or harder to be a jw?

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  Apostate Kate

  Children are damaged , the younger the more damage is done.

  Humans go through natural developmental stages, they need to be safe, loved, nurtered. Toddlers are not wired for boring meetings. There is no reason for a toddler to be there. There is no good in a child being taught JW paranoia. Adolescents ...well they may create survival mechanisms but what a wasted life.

  It's all bad.
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  Girls help!!! What signs when a woman is interested in a guy?

  by Spectrum in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  generally i find that if a girl is interested in me she makes it quite obvious by her actions and words.

  i'm fine with this.

  however there are times when a i really can't tell and this is the problem i'm grappling with at the moment.

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  Apostate Kate

  True story from some years ago.

  Me: Ya my last girlfriend was great, I really, really liked her.
  
  Her: Oh? *looks down at her feet kinda sad*
  
  Me: Anita was her name
  
  Her: Ahh *Looking around a little irritated*
  
  Me: Ya Anita Bonghit, I will never forget her.

  Ya its corny but I got a relieved laugh out of her.

  LOL

  I got it! It took me a few minutes...but hey it's the blond thang.

  Guys we want to feel like we are the only women that has EVER floated your boat. And be real cuz we can smell a fake, well not all of us, but many can!

  If we are not the most wonderful you ever met, then don't waste our time. We want to be your morning sun, your brilliant evening sun set, your everything. We want flowers and poetry and romance and dinners and to laugh and play and feel loved....and you know what guys, we are worth it!
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  DO SOMETHING

  by ArtfulDodger in

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  i see this site gets thousands of postings every day .. from literally thousands of members, mostly ex-dubs, from all over the world.. rather than simply go on moaning and whinging about the big nasty org why don't you all put your efforts into something positive ... do something.. ok - the org is evil .. but it exists ... and simply whining on about it doesn't change that.

  with your efforts directed at something positive, you could do wonders for .

  .for anything you choose.. hundreds of real charities could do with your support - to help the really needy .

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  Dodgers posts are so encouraging! I feel renewed!

  gee I never thought about doing something until he came along....

  my little bit of sarcasm, which is actually anger in disguise they say....
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  Girls help!!! What signs when a woman is interested in a guy?

  by Spectrum in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  generally i find that if a girl is interested in me she makes it quite obvious by her actions and words.

  i'm fine with this.

  however there are times when a i really can't tell and this is the problem i'm grappling with at the moment.

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  Apostate Kate

  ps...yes we all have pasts but NEVER talk about exs ever with a date, girlfriend, or wife.

  We don't like that.

  lol
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  Girls help!!! What signs when a woman is interested in a guy?

  by Spectrum in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  generally i find that if a girl is interested in me she makes it quite obvious by her actions and words.

  i'm fine with this.

  however there are times when a i really can't tell and this is the problem i'm grappling with at the moment.

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  Apostate Kate

  I didn't accuse her of playing mind games. I was upset that she did a U turn on me though because I got to like her and it is not often I get to like a girl that actually likes me back.

  I wasn't going to read this thread because I thought I have nothing much to offer, until I read the thread!

  GUYS!!!! What is it with you? Is it fear if rejection or what?

  1. First Base; TALK. Communicate! Ask. Listen. Respectfully engage in dialog. Ask her what she thinks about you, what she thinks about considering a relationship with you. Usually women are better at this but not always. It sounds like this girl may not be as able to express herself as others.

  2. Spend quality respectful time together. No sex! Ask her out. Don't over think it. Don't try to analyze a response, ASK what she is thinking and feeling about going out with you if you think you are getting a so so response. Some women don't want to appear too eager, even if they are hoping for your attention.

  3. Consider all things in the blooming relationship. If you like her SHOW it. Realisticaly face differences. My attitude always was; why waste time dating someone whos differences are so great we could not spend the rest of our lives together. Consider everything like smoking, drinking, cultures, GOALS in life. Where do you both want to be ten years from now?

  4. ROMANCE! Beautiful beautiful romance, the lust wears off after two years, then the long term love carries you the rest of the way. You will not have that long term love unless you go through the first three steps.

  You single guys should get Dr Phils books on dating. He really is good.
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  Glad to know I am not the only one

  by Wendy_Warden in

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  i've been lurking on this board all morning and reading all the articles about dating/having a relationship with a jw.

  because, as many people seem to, i find myself in that situation.

  i am confused becuase the jw guy is not a very consistent jw in a lot of ways.

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  Apostate Kate

  Wendy, being the wacky apostate JW born again Christian that I am...I wonder if God did not send you to help him out. One thing that I keep in mind, and use it to govern myself and my own actions, is that there were too few people willing to take my self righteous butt on when I was a JW. Do you have a Crisis of Conscience book? If not get one and read it. I'm making a run to the PO today, if you need one PM me where and I'll ship it today.
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  dammit sass, you were right

  by osmosis in

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  bah.

  bah i say!.

  after talking with the jw aunt yesterday and feeling extremely frustrated at her ability to twist logic and not see things that are right in front of her, i started feeling kinda down.. dammit, sass was right, i worked myself into a depression over this.

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  Apostate Kate

  oh Ossie...your post really brought tears to my eyes.

  {{{{{{{{{{{ossie}}}}}}}}}}}

  Don't be sad.

  I promise you it gets better from here and one thing I have learned is; at first it seems that no good deed goes unpunished, but wait awhile and you will see wonderful things come from every good thing you do. Life really is beautiful outside the org, and people you would have never imagined coming out will come out. Love is eternal. Don't be afraid to give it, even when it hurts.

  Be good to yourself.
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  What's a good excuse to miss a meeting?

  by JH in

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  name good excuses that should be good enough to miss a meeting but not good enough for the elders...

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  Apostate Kate

  I have gas.

  I got a run in my last pair of nylons. (I know this new crazy generation X doesn't always wear them but we did)

  I don't feel good.

  I'm sorry I lost track of time.

  I stepped in dog poop on the way out the door.

  Stomach ache, headache, various body part ache

  nausea

  virus

  puking or about to puke

  my clothes were not dry in time oh darn it

  I was being persecuted

  My bra strap broke

  my unspiritual friend let me sleep in.

  those were a few from my era....I know, I'm old.
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  Wow, didn't expect this

  by mavie in

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  well, got a call from my sound assistant...to see how i am doing.. this brother suffers from frequent feelings of low self-worth and is actually one of the people my wife and i feel comfortable talking with.

  he asked where i have been...i said taking care of my wife.

  i told him that my wife has expressed the very real possibility she will hurt herself to me...and that i couldn't live with myself if i was giving a talk at the congo and that happened.

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  Apostate Kate

  Be careful with what you say, as he could have a sudden pang of guilt and discuss with the elders your comments.

  I third that. You have to watch every word you say until you are ready for the lable "apostate" I was betrayed more than once.

  Mavie I do hope you have taken your wife to a good psychiatrist. There is no shame in seeing the right doc for the right problem. Since I left the org I seen a psychiatrist, psychologist, psychoanalyst, post traumatic stress disorder-anger managment specialist and I think I REALLY am normal now!

  There were periods of time that I had to take anti depressants. I have a genetic condition that worked with the mental abuse of the Watchtower to really make my life difficult in the past. Plus I married an abusive man after being raised in an abusive religion, no surprise there.

  It has been many years since I battled depression and life is so beautiful on this side of the Tower.